So you don't believe in good and evil?
- deathporcoconut
- Sep 20, 2019
- 4 min read
I like playing the devil's advocate. Actually, I love it. It is what I live for. The idea that everyone agrees to something and thinks their opinion is a conclusion is the most rash thing. I truly believe that moment you think you know something is the moment you know nothing.
I won't forget this one time in college in my favorite class, Humanities. Some people hate this class and I love that about it. The professor presented a question. It was basically, is their good or evil? Something along those lines. I spent a lot of time only paying half of my attention to the class. She asked that if you believe that good and evil does not exist than go to the left, if you believe it does exist than go to the right. I got up and went to the right. I think half of the class did not feel like getting up, but basically everyone ended up on the left. It was me and one other girl on the right. So at this point I realize what I am starting to get myself into. I've made a semi unconscious mental decision that I just represented physically and being myself I'm going to have to make an argument for it being at it that the girl in front of me does not seem like she likes to speak and I am the only one over here. The teacher then makes us aware that we are going to discuss why believe what we believe and argue with each other. I am currently still trying to figure out what we are arguing about and then the debate begins
After the group on the left begins to speak and I realize the girl in front of me has no words I realize it is me against the classroom. Perfect (sarcasm). Their argument is basically, good and evil is based of perception. There is no evil because by perception it could be good. OKAY OKAY that could have actually been the question. Does evil exist? But, to help my argument, you can't have evil without good. Do I even need to say why?
So somehow I begin to speak up. The only thing I remember about the discussion is that they basically said that evil is subjective and asked me to give one example of evil. I said hitler. And my argument was really like, are you really gonna say hitler did no evil? Not a bad argument, but not really good for the context either. Why? Because they would just argue back that it is subjective and Hitler might have thought it was good. Which at that point we are not even talking about the same thing. It's freshman year. I still liked to argue just to argue and wanted to be right. I did not care about the best idea... yet.
This was so strange to hear from a group of mormons. Like omg, ur so woke. Evil and good are subjective. I learned from watching a secular Disney film. Can you hear my intellectuall woeness easing out of a philosophy I disagree with in real life based on what I act out. So annoying.
Okay. sorry. Let's dig into this. Is there evil? You can understand my mind. Like obviously yes. How can you look at a mass murder and say there is no evil. Like what do you want to do? Do you want to exist in the world and pretend that there is no good and evil? Everything we do is centered around what we find as good and evil. But the argument of subjectivism that there is no evil you then must say there is no good because you need something to compare. If there is no good and evil than the world is just a list of facts. There is a microwave. There is a tree. There is a human. They are not good and evil, they just are. Okay. Then why do you car about things? Why do yo love some things? If everything is just a thing why do we have these contradictions? If we just exist in this world where good and evil are not a thing then why do anything. Why do we act as though we can do good in the world? Why do we wake up in the morning? Because we have faith that something good will happen and we can manifest that good into the world. Saying there is no evil based off of subjectivity is no fun. We need to draw the line somewhere in this world. It's an ever moving line of scrimmage, but it has to exist. To say there is no evil means there is no view of the world at all. That there is no existence. Yet, there is. We feel and see things. We treat each other in certain ways. We can put each other in each others shoes with our imagination. To say there is no evil is to be nihilistic within itself. Why even exist if there is no evil? If there is no evil then there is no good to be done.
The existence of evil is consciousness itself. A lion knows no good and evil. This is Genesis. This the beginning of life. This is the tree of wisdom. This is Adam and eve. This is the first sin. You will gain the knowledge of good and evil, but with that comes that knowledge of good and evil. A lion hunts for meat. No lion has ever questioned its means to kill. It is simply existing. Climbing up and down its hierarchy. We humans can see good and evil and act upon based off the means of survival. If lions could see good and evil would they stop what they are doing? I would say within their means. Some violence has to be done in order for their survival and they same goes for humans. The idea that we are meant to partake ourself in consuming parts of this life in the world is non negotiable (plants and animals). But how we go about each while still putting food on the table is humanity itself. This is the existence of good and evil. This is the existence of evil. Please do not tell me evil does not exist because everything you do acts as though it does.
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